BC/YT Region

Regional Union Management Consultation Committee (RUMCC)

Record of Discussions for February 4, 2008

 

 

Participants

 

Union

Pat Wakefield            NVP, CEIU (Canada Employment & Immigration Union)

Dianne Mitchell          Alternate NVP, CEIU (Canada Employment & Immigration Union)

Roberta Gale             Representative, ACFO (Association of Canadian Financial Officers)

Rod Smelser             Representative, CAPE (Canadian Association of Professional Employees)

Grant McGregor        Representative, PIPSC (Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada)

 

Management

Andy Netzel                            Regional Executive Head (Chair)

Lynn Jackson             Senior Director, Citizen Services

Anne Milne                             Senior Director, Processing & Payment Services

Con Leonidas                        A/Director, Human Resources

Judith Walton             A/Manager, Human Resources

Crystal Johnston                    A/Team Leader, Human Resources

 

 

Support to the Committee

Cynthia Lam                          Regional Executive Head Office

 

 

 

Review of Agenda

The agenda was reviewed and the following items were added:

-          Reinstatement of the Regional Employment Equity Committee – Grant McGregor

-          EC Conversion – Rod Smelser

-          Merge of Processing & Payment Services Responsibility Centres of Prince George and Nanaimo – Anne Milne

-          Update on the Workload Distribution Sub-Committee – Pat Wakefield

 

Con Leonidas recognized that this is the last meeting of the BC/YT Regional Union-Management Consultation Committee.  The next meeting will be with the UMCC of BAT (British Columbia-Alberta-Territories).

 

 

 


Review of Record of Discussions for December 10, 2007

The Record of Discussions for December 10, 2007 was reviewed.

 

Grant McGregor asked about Systems’ involvement with the Labour Market Development Agreement, as well as whether PIPSC members will also be transferred to the province.

 

Lynn Jackson spoke on:

-          The Systems component of the LMDA discussions is being lead from National Headquarters, with Cecile Lauriault.  In this region, Laurelle Shalagan and Jazz Heer have been involved. 

-          A meeting in Montreal on January 22-23, 2008 was held with non-devolved provinces on existing and new employment-related systems, as well as database accessibility and long-term needs.   

-          No work descriptions of Systems staff were shared with the province.  Therefore, no PIPSC jobs will be included with the LMDA transfer of staff.

 

 

Management Items

 

1.      REH Update – Andy Netzel

Andy Netzel provided an update on three topics:

 

a)        The BAT Leadership Conference is scheduled for February 5-7, 2008, in Richmond.    Union representatives attending are Pat Wakefield, Roberta Gale, Rod Smelser, Edward Zdanceswicz and Lamont Nielsen.  Agenda topics included the Regional Structural Model and the LMDA.

 

b)        Andy was in Ottawa last week for meetings that focused on finances.  There is nothing of significance to report for 2007/2008.  Andy will be back in Ottawa next week for further meetings with the Resource Management Committee.  Budget details are expected to be finalized by March; Andy will update the RUMCC in April.

 

c)        Andy spoke on his visits to Prince George on January 9th and Whitehorse on January 25th.  Staff was well-informed and asked thoughtful questions.  Communications from management, along with the learning plan discussions, helped to clarify options and generate staff interest, while they await more concrete details.  Anne Milne reported that she has received over 40 deployment requests, from Processing & Payment Services and Programs. 

 

Pat Wakefield accompanied Andy on his visit to Prince George.  Pat appreciated the time that Andy spent talking to staff and answering their questions.

 

Con Leonidas explained that all 2008/2009 Personal Learning Plans for staff must be data-input by March 31, 2008.  This information will provide an indication of staff interest and intentions.

 

Pat Wakefield asked about external staffing processes and if there was a freeze on deployments in Programs.  Andy responded that all current staffing processes will carry on as normal, and that there is no freeze on deployments.

 

 

2.      Labour Market Development Agreement / Labour Market Agreement (LMDA/LMA) – Lynn Jackson

Lynn Jackson spoke on the status of the LMDA and LMA discussions.  Both federal and provincial governments are committed to reaching an agreement.  Staff Bulletin #5 was issued on January 17, 2008 following some provincial communication of a possible February 2009 transfer date.  The notification that the agreements will be signed is expected shortly.  A Workforce Adjustment Committee will be formed as part of finalizing the Employee Transfer Agreement (ETA). 

 

Pat Wakefield inquired about deployments into and out of Programs.  Con Leonidas stated that deployments continue to occur steadily.  There is no freeze on deployments.

 

Dianne Mitchell wanted to know about the number of Program staff who will be transferred.  Lynn Jackson stated that it is connected to salary and non-salary dollars.  In the 1996 offer, the number of staff was 470.  Currently, the number would be less, as the number of Program staff in the region is less.  We will also need staff to continue our service to Canadians.

 

Dianne Mitchell asked if the Workforce Adjustment is Type 2.  Lynn Jackson replied that it is a Type 2.

 

Dianne Mitchell inquired as to whether work descriptions have been provided to the province.  Con Leonidas confirmed that current work descriptions have been given to the province.

 

Dianne Mitchell spoke on the discrepancy in the pensionable years of service between the federal and provincial plans.  Lynn Jackson stated that all such issues will be articulated in the ETA and that a pension test of reasonableness has been conducted by an external consultant.  Con Leonidas spoke on the options for transferring staff with their pensions, including reciprocal transfer agreements and other compensations, such as a lump sum payment and federal severance pay.  Dianne mentioned that this information will be necessary for staff to make informed decisions, as well as the importance of union and management working together.

 

Dianne Mitchell wondered whether there will be opportunities for substitutions amongst the transferred staff.  Lynn Jackson responded that a number of factors are involved, such as experience of the staff, geographical location, requirements of the province, etc.  Each situation will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.  Pat Wakefield agreed that each case is unique and must be dealt with individually.

 

Dianne Mitchell asked about post-retirement benefits for those who choose to retire from the federal government prior to the LMDA transfer, such as pensioner’s dental plan coverage.  Con Leonidas stated that this has yet to be discussed at the national level.

 

Grant McGregor stated that in his interactions with Program staff, he has noticed a change in attitude from negative to a sense of adventure.  He credits this to the union’s and management’s communication efforts, such as the staff bulletins and website information.  Dianne Mitchell mentioned that staff is responding professionally; they are asking questions and waiting for more details.  Pat Wakefield acknowledged that Lynn’s and Andy’s office visits also helped to inform staff.  Lynn stated that the provincial government wants our staff.  Pat Wakefield agreed.  She felt that the attitude and atmosphere of the provincial government are positive.  Dianne Mitchell mentioned staff is committed to their work in the community and to uninterrupted, quality service to our clients. 

 

 

 

3.      Review of RUMCC Terms of Reference  - Pat Wakefield

Pat Wakefield distributed copies of the draft Terms of Reference document (attached).  Andy Netzel will share a copy with the PIPSC representative in AB/NT/NU (Grace Chychul).

 

It was agreed that these Terms of Reference be approved and adopted at the first meeting of the BAT UMCC.

 

Andy Netzel thanked the Terms of Reference Sub-Committee for their work and for producing the revised Terms of Reference. 

 

As a related item, Andy Netzel mentioned that the structures of UMCCs on a local and geographical basis in both BC/YT and AB/NT/NU will need to be determined, especially in light of staff reporting to other offices and to NHQ.  This is deferred for discussion at the next BAT UMCC meeting.

 

 

4.      Northern BC’s Written Document – Pat Wakefield

As a follow-up item to the December 10th meeting, Lynn Jackson confirmed that the document is a guideline.  The document has been reframed as “Leave Planning 2007/2008” with local site and team leader responsibilities.  According to the guideline, the Officer-in-Charge is normally the senior staff person and as the Leave Coordinator, will start the discussion on leave requests.

 

Pat Wakefield mentioned that in work teams, anyone can start the discussion, not necessary the senior staff member, and that leave management is the responsibility of the team leader or manager.  Lynn Jackson stated that in offices with more than one business line, a designated person needs to be identified to ‘start the ball rolling’.

 

Lynn will share the “Leave Planning 2007/08” document with the RUMCC members, and Pat Wakefield will follow-up with offices. 

 

NOTE:  The “Leave Planning 2007/08” document was distributed to RUMCC members on February 15, 2008.

 

 

5.      Quesnel Office – Pat Wakefield

As a follow-up item to the December 10th meeting, Lynn Jackson stated that no Incident Report was raised on the safety situation in the Quesnel office.  Pat Wakefield is aware that a grievance has been filed.  Judith Walton will follow-up on the grievance.

 

Judith Walton stated that the National Occupational Safety & Health Committee is developing a security policy for small offices.

 

Grant McGregor asked about the nature of the personal protective devices.  Judith Walton confirmed that these are the pendant alarms.

 

 

 

Additional Agenda Items

 

6.      Reinstatement of the Regional Employment Equity Committee – Grant McGregor

Grant McGregor spoke on a number of issues that he will take to the reinstated Regional Employment Equity Committee:

-          procedures on requirements for accommodations,

-          a review of accommodation issues, and

-          lack of assessment guidelines and facilities.

Grant also shared a number of situations where local offices phone him for accommodations issues, as well as general enquiries regarding headsets, etc. 

 

Judith Walton will follow-up on these cases. 

 

 

7.      EC Conversion – Rod Smelser

Rod Smelser stated that 24 work descriptions involved with EC Conversion has been posted with no levels.  Rod asked why the levels were not included and when they will be posted.

 

Con Leonidas stated that because the process is not yet completed, the levels may not yet be rated.  He will follow-up with NHQ and advise.

 


 

8.      Merge of Processing & Payment Services Prince George and Nanaimo Responsibility Centres – Anne Milne

Anne Milne spoke on the merge of the P&PS R/Cs of Prince George and Nanaimo.  Meetings have been held with staff and solutions have made for the imaging issue.  There has been no negative reactions. 

 

Pat Wakefield said that productivity in Prince George may be impacted by the staff’s work on virtual files.  Anne Milne will work with staff and watch for this in the productivity figures.

 

 

9.      Update on the Workload Distribution Sub-Committee – Pat Wakefield

As a follow-up to the December 10th meeting, Pat Wakefield asked for a status report on the Performance Management sessions with local UMCCs and on the next meeting of the Workload Distribution Sub-Committee.

 

Judith Walton will follow-up with Pat Brand on the Performance Management sessions.  He has completed the following sessions:

-          February 13, 2007 for the Central & Northern Vancouver Island,

-          August 8, 2007 for Regional Headquarters/Lower Mainland,

-          October 24, 2007 for Southern Interior,

-          December 13, 2007 for Northern BC and

-          January 8, 2008 for OAS/CPP Processing and Southern Vancouver Island. 

 

Lynn Jackson will convene a conference call of the sub-committee members to provide an update.

 

 

Next Meeting of the BAT Union Management Consultation Committee

 

To be determined in the month of April 2008.

 


** DRAFT **

 

Service Canada (HRSDC)

Regional Union-Management Consultation Committee

British Columbia-Alberta-Territories (BAT)

 

TERMS OF REFERENCE

 

 

DEFINITIONS

-          Region:  British Columbia, Alberta and the Territories (Yukon, Northwest, Nunavut) (BAT)

-          Vancouver:  Regional Headquarters, Library Square

-          Edmonton:  Regional Headquarters, Canada Place

 
 
PURPOSE

In accordance with the Public Service Labour Relations Act, the purpose of the RUMCC is to provide a forum for meaningful consultation and collaboration, whenever possible on direction and issues of region-wide importance. The RUMCC will be guided by the National Union-Management Consultation Framework.

 

 

COMMITTEE COMPOSITION

While the benefits of consistency in membership are well recognized, named alternates should be identified in the event that a member is unable to attend a meeting.

 

Union Representatives

Senior Regional Representatives of the Unions representing employees of Service Canada Initiative (HRSDC) and such other union representation designated by the Senior Regional Representatives.

              

Management Representatives

Regional Executive Head, Service Management; Director Generals; Director(s) Human Resources; and such other persons as designated by the Executive Head of Service Management.  

 

 

FREQUENCY OF MEETINGS

At least four times per year or more frequently at the call of the Co-Chairs.

 

 

LOCATION OF MEETINGS

Meetings will take place in Vancouver and Edmonton.  Other than in-person meetings, the alternate site will attend by video-conference. 

 

 

COMMITTEE PROCEDURES

 

Agenda

·         The Agenda for the meetings will be determined by the Co-Chairs and distributed, along with any background materials, ten days prior to the meeting.  When possible, sufficient detail regarding an agenda item will be provided well in advance to allow for research and preparation of agenda items prior to the meeting.  Other agenda items can be added at the time of the meeting, with agreement of the Co-Chairs.

·         The Committee will deal with issues of its own choosing as well as those issues referred from Local UMCCs, where all efforts to resolve the problem have not succeeded.

·         Issues that are not able to be resolved at the regional level may be referred to the National UMCC.

·         The Co-Chairs shall reserve the right to invite persons or guest speakers to address the meeting on pre-determined topics.

 

Chair

·         The meetings will be co-chaired on an alternating rotational basis by the Regional Executive Head, Service Management, and a Union Co-Chair as determined by the Union side.

 

Record of Discussions

·         Draft Record of Discussions from each meeting will be distributed within three weeks of the meeting to all RUMCC members for input.

·         The Co-Chairs are responsible for approving the Record of Discussions.  It was agreed this will be done electronically.

·         Once approved, the Record of Discussions will be posted on the Intranet.  Final Record of Discussions will be forwarded to all RUMCC members, and adopted at the subsequent meeting.

 

Sub-Committees

·         Sub-Committees may be established as needed.  Membership on sub-committees will be determined by the union and management representatives.

 

Secretariat

·         Management shall provide secretariat services.

 
 
REVIEW

These Terms of Reference will be reviewed annually or as agreed by the committee.

 

 

REFERENCES

-          HRSDC & SDC Union-Management Consultation Framework, 2006 (http://hr.hq-ac.prv/hrb/umcc/framework.asp)

-          Public Service Labour Relations Act, 2003, Division 3 (Consultation Committees and Co-Development) (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/P-33.3/)

 

 

Revised: January 2008